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pameladean ([personal profile] pameladean) wrote2010-07-16 01:55 pm

But it's all right, it's all right, it's all right

This is an addendum to my previous entry. I've gotten a number of sad comments, so here are some consolatory remarks.

First, the two-volume version of the book is safe in multiple backups. I don't have time to think about it until I get the revision done; and my agent feels that if there is to be any hope of ever publishing the two-volume version in any form, it will have to be well after the shorter version is published. But if I can, I will make it available for people to read.

Second, there is a lot of good material still in the shortened version. It's not going to feel hacked about, any more rushed than my books generally do, shallow, or any more opaque than my books generally are. If I can't do it right -- though I believe that I can -- I won't do it. My general approach to a book is to start a huge number of subplots along with the main plot, and to resolve some but not all of them. A great deal of what I have done here is to remove subplots entire to a later volume. This pains me greatly, but I don't think it is actually doing much damage either to the main plot or to the subplots. There is still a lot going on in the background, so readers who like that sort of thing should not be unbearably disconsolate.

Third, several people over the course of several rather despairing entries have asked in comments why I am doing this. There are a number of reasons, some lofty and some very practical. But an important one is that I want to work with Sharyn November. She's edited one short story of mine, and I've heard her talk about editing on panels. I really want to work with her. I won't produce a bad, damaged book to do that. Nor, I believe, would she let me do so.

Fourth, I am probably making matters sound worse than they are. When things are going well, I just work on the book. When I become discouraged or stymied, then I cast about for writing-avoidance behaviors. My cat won't let me vacuum him, so I must resort to posting to LJ.

Fifth, I'm not sure how much credence anyone should give to me, at this stage, when I talk about the book's themes. I think I know what they are, but the degree to which the book is "about" such things may vary, or at lease people's perceptions of that degree may vary. The full exploration of the themes will require at least one more volume and possibly two.

I hope these remarks are useful and calming. I have to go back to where the middle has fallen out of the book and put a new one in. Thank you all for your kindness and patience.

Pamela

[identity profile] timprov.livejournal.com 2010-07-16 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I for one am rather substantially reassured by the intimation that further volumes are possible. I don't think you had let us in on that before, which may explain some of the woe.

Novel

[identity profile] markiv1111.livejournal.com 2010-07-16 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
There are times that I am really, really happy that I'm finished with being a writer. (Note that this doesn't feel like a choice. Back in 1990, it felt more like "Nate, you no longer have O negative blood. You have A positive blood, you will have A positive blood for the rest of your life, and you have nothing to say about it.") It strikes me as being a very challenging situation, but I am sure you are handling it as well as anybody I know could possibly do. Hang in there.

[identity profile] matociquala.livejournal.com 2010-07-16 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
*\o/*

That is all.

[identity profile] bunsen-h.livejournal.com 2010-07-16 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm looking forward to reading it, in whatever version you eventually release it in. Whether it's a single baby or twins, followed by a later sib or not.

[identity profile] huladavid.livejournal.com 2010-07-16 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
A: Just as long as Disney doesn't do the movie

B: "My cat won't let me vacuum him, so I must resort to posting to LJ." Best Sentence In The EVAH!

[identity profile] bunsen-h.livejournal.com 2010-07-16 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't think that Ruth needs a cute spunky animal sidekick? Maybe a wolf puppy?

[identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com 2010-07-16 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I have hopes to see both versions (and also envy that you get treated with respect.)

[identity profile] huladavid.livejournal.com 2010-07-16 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually I don't know anything about...Oh wait! Are these the kids from the..."The Unflappity Country" or whatever the title is?

Which really doesn't have much to do with my answer. I just plain hate Disney(corp.)'s tendency to make fantasy safe for America.

And giving every Tom, Dick, Harry, Ruth, Hobbit, Lefthanded Lesbian Orc a "cute animal sidekick".

OT

[identity profile] mjlayman.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
OT: I was at my desk yesterday and saw something across the street that made me think of you and your outdoor interest. There were four house sparrows flying around: one in front, three chasing. I reckon we know what they were doing!

[identity profile] faithhopetricks.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
The full exploration of the themes will require at least one more volume and possibly two.

OMGYAY

[identity profile] bunsen-h.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
At least part of the story was to involve Ruth (from the Secret Country trilogy) meeting Arry (from The Dubious Hills). Ruth is a Sorceress. Arry has wolf issues. Together, they... well, that's for Pamela to tell us.
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[identity profile] 17catherines.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds like a painful process, regardless. I do look forward to reading both versions of the book, at whatever time this becomes possible...

love

Catherine

[identity profile] bunsen-h.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Um. In this medium, tone is sometimes hard to read. I hope I haven't given offense.

[identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
:-)

[identity profile] matociquala.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
*\o/* *\o/* *\o/* *\o/* *\o/*

The cheerleaders are easier to spot in groups.

[identity profile] bunsen-h.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, whew.

Aw. Thanks.

[identity profile] sdn.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
I won't produce a bad, damaged book to do that. Nor, I believe, would she let me do so.

Of course I wouldn't. And, again, thank you.
lcohen: (autumn tree)

[personal profile] lcohen 2010-07-17 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs and love*

reading and enjoying--will send e-mail when i surface. i seem to be doing a lot of my reading at 3:30 in the morning but that's not anyone's fault.

i'm sure that the throes of rewriting suck, but you write beautifully and will produce something wonderful, though different.

*more hugs and love*

[identity profile] apostle-of-eris.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
(disclaimer: I identify as a member of perhaps the smallest of sub-fandoms: fans who simply feel they have no talent for fiction.)
Istm you've omitted a critical datum: how far afield is all this from your usual “process”? We know different writers write differently. Completely aside from the matter of comfort, how new is the territory you're moving [[I want a link to a thesaurus or randomizer here -- moving, traveling, lurching, stumbling, trailblazing, proceeding, working your way]] through?

Re: OT

[identity profile] apostle-of-eris.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
“generations of sparrows fucking in the eaves” is a line from a poem about a college campus building, which stuck in my mind from a Joanna Russ talk on how sometimes you just have to use the word “fuck” because no other will do . . .
thinkum: (life: a work in progress)

[personal profile] thinkum 2010-07-18 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Meanwhile, off in the wilds of NH, we do our best to wait patiently for a new Pamela book, knowing that whatever form it eventually takes, we will both thoroughly enjoy it, and then have the chance to happily pester you for a longer version.

(We keep doing our part for the state Lottery Commission and buying PowerBall tickets, in the (so far) vain hope that eventually we can afford to come back to the Twin Cities for a proper visit. Failing that, our hopeful and encouraging thoughts regularly wing in your direction. :-))

[identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I love you, Pamela...Jackie