A lot of the bitter anti-TLJ people I know of don't like Kylo at all because he's too emotional (read: "feminine") and still visibly torn between the Dark and the Light, instead of being Vader Mark 2 like they were hoping he'd be. I haven't heard any of them complaining that
[SPOILERS HO] . . . . . . . . . Luke didn't rescue Kylo, because they didn't want him to be rescued in the first place -- they wanted to see him completely engulfed by the Dark and taking his place at Snoke's side as the Big Scary Bad of the trilogy. Or, as you said, becoming Renperor (which he... technically is, but I give it about five minutes before Hux double-crosses him and takes over. Like, the minute Kylo decides to take a nap).
Anyway Ben's had a few kick-starts now, between Han and Rey and Luke; I look forward to him waking up and smelling the redemption coffee in Ep. 9. (Also to Luke's Force Ghost haunting the crap out of him, because he pretty much promised he would.) Rian Johnson says that Ben and Rey are "like two halves of our protagonist", and I don't think he was only referring to TLJ when he said it.
You're right that it's Rey's story, though -- we're seeing the majority of it from her perspective and her coming into her own as the Last Jedi is absolutely crucial to the resolution of the trilogy. I love that she's a nobody. I hope the last film doesn't go back on that, because the idea that the Force is tied to the Skywalker legacy is, as we've already seen with Ben, a Serious Problem.
And my husband thought Luke's characterization in TLJ was very much in line with the original trilogy too. It was the first thing he brought up when we talked about it on the way home.
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Luke didn't rescue Kylo, because they didn't want him to be rescued in the first place -- they wanted to see him completely engulfed by the Dark and taking his place at Snoke's side as the Big Scary Bad of the trilogy. Or, as you said, becoming Renperor (which he... technically is, but I give it about five minutes before Hux double-crosses him and takes over. Like, the minute Kylo decides to take a nap).
Anyway Ben's had a few kick-starts now, between Han and Rey and Luke; I look forward to him waking up and smelling the redemption coffee in Ep. 9. (Also to Luke's Force Ghost haunting the crap out of him, because he pretty much promised he would.) Rian Johnson says that Ben and Rey are "like two halves of our protagonist", and I don't think he was only referring to TLJ when he said it.
You're right that it's Rey's story, though -- we're seeing the majority of it from her perspective and her coming into her own as the Last Jedi is absolutely crucial to the resolution of the trilogy. I love that she's a nobody. I hope the last film doesn't go back on that, because the idea that the Force is tied to the Skywalker legacy is, as we've already seen with Ben, a Serious Problem.
And my husband thought Luke's characterization in TLJ was very much in line with the original trilogy too. It was the first thing he brought up when we talked about it on the way home.