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EDITED TO ADD:

I seem to have conveyed the impression that Fourth Street was mean to me, or contained people who were mean to me, or that the convention disappointed me in some way. This is not at all what I meant. It was a wonderful convention and I am very much looking forward to the next one, when I will be forewarned about the contents of my head and able to deal with them with more equanimity.


I keep starting LJ entries and abandoning them because I get into convoluted descriptions of events I'm trying just to list sparsely.

Come to think of it, that's a lot of my problem with this book. Finding a shape to put the first volume into has been exceptionally difficult, but I think I have finally found it a nice Jello mold, in an abstract shape that might be a library, or a unicorn, or an emotional situation. I have not, however, really made the text any shorter. Once I'm done with writing the (new) last chapter, I'll go over the whole thing from start to finish and see if anything can be cut. I'm talking about entire paragraphs, not a stray word here and there.

Other things I've done this summer have included:

Attending Fourth Street Fantasy Convention. It was good for my writing and my brain, but dealt a number of emotional and intellectual blows that I'm still wrestling with.

Gone to Itasca State Park with Raphael. We had never before seen so many dragonflies there. They were flying up from the road as we drove along, every few feet.

Coopted Eric to help me make gobi paratha for David, a fulfilling a rather old promise.

Hiked in Wild River and St. Croix State Parks with Raphael.

Gone to Pike Island with Eric.

Cursed the book a lot. I had better get back to this, as the deadline for Volume 1 approaches and I still have no title. My editor may yet be sorry that she made a CERTAIN ALLEGEDLY HUMOROUS REMARK ABOUT WHAT I SHOULD CALL BOTH VOLUMES. I mumble darkly and return to my toil.

I do read LJ and do think about all of you.

Pamela

Date: 2008-07-24 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowflyer.livejournal.com
Good lord...a library, a Unicorn, or an emotional situation, you can't tell which?

You're not writing an Amber novel, are you?!

:-P

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Date: 2008-07-24 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
One is curious what the CERTAIN ALLEGEDLY HUMOROUS REMARK ABOUT WHAT YOU SHOULD CALL BOTH VOLUMES was.

YUP

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Date: 2008-07-24 07:40 pm (UTC)
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I thing you should name the first one "Going" and the second one "North".

Failing that, you should call them "Going Northeast" and "Going Northwest", so you wind up in the same place at the end. :)

Date: 2008-07-24 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sdn.livejournal.com
in fact, your first suggestion was what i said.

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Date: 2008-07-24 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
You are clever.

How about calling it Unicorns and Libraries. Then you could call the other half Libraries and Unicorns. And, for bonus extra points I could call my untitled thing Libraries and Fairies!

Date: 2008-07-24 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonquil.livejournal.com
" It was good for my writing and my brain, but dealt a number of emotional and intellectual blows that I'm still wrestling with."

I'm very, very sorry for that. Cons should be, if not actually restful, safe places.

Date: 2008-07-24 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalmn.livejournal.com
Cons should be, if not actually restful, safe places.

i'm just guessing you didn't go to wiscon this year.

(pictures of several wiscon members ended up on a particularly horrible website, with accompanying text mocking them.)

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Date: 2008-07-24 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalmn.livejournal.com
i have checked around my household, and consensus is that you should call it "tales of gaptooth whitebeard, queen of all the pirates". she also says that if that's not what the book is actually about, you should just hurry up and rewrite it, then.

;)

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Date: 2008-07-24 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sdn.livejournal.com
Cursed the book a lot. I had better get back to this, as the deadline for Volume 1 approaches and I still have no title. My editor may yet be sorry that she made a CERTAIN ALLEGEDLY HUMOROUS REMARK ABOUT WHAT I SHOULD CALL BOTH VOLUMES. I mumble darkly and return to my toil.

::cracks up laughing::

Date: 2008-07-24 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenejournal.livejournal.com
I am sorry to hear about the emotional and intellectual blows, and that the book is giving you fits. Thinking of you, and hoping everything gets easier and better.

Date: 2008-07-24 08:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lcohen
i think about you, too. it will take form.

gobi paratha sounds yummy.

*hugs*

Tis backed like a unicorn...

Date: 2008-07-24 08:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] oursin.livejournal.com
I'm delighted - if rather envious - to hear about the dragonflies. Especially, she adds in particularly Eeeyoreish tones, as this is the time of year when winged ants start swarming out of cracks in the London pavement.

Re: Tis backed like a unicorn...

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Date: 2008-07-24 08:59 pm (UTC)
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I have discovered that the Union League makes a splendid vegan entree at their dining room. Four little places of wonderfulness.

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Date: 2008-07-24 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cakmpls.livejournal.com
Titles have always been my Worst Thing in writing. I don't write fiction (well, I did once, for a college class, and as I recall, I had more trouble with the title than with the story), but poems, essays, papers, LJ posts--my mind just doesn't think In Titles, apparently.

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Possible titles

Date: 2008-07-24 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dsgood.livejournal.com
The Last Unicorn of Summer

Unicorn in the Sea of Time for the first one. Followed by Unicorn in the Sea of Newsweek

Gelatin of the Gods

Date: 2008-07-24 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
Sorry about fourth Street. If it hit you hard, glad I didn't go--I envision a salted slug.

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Date: 2008-07-24 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
Well, if nothing else, you can go solve the sock problem.

K.

Sock problem

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Date: 2008-07-24 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coffeeem.livejournal.com
Waugh--I wish Fourth Street had been perfect for you, and hope it was Good Enough. (I mostly thought it was too damned short!, but what can you do?)

If you call the first book Going North, the title of the second could have a parallel/contrasting sort of structure: two words, the first a gerund again, but one that's not about moving. Like, say, keeping or watching or holding.

(Just, you know, a mumbley thought, without having read the material in question, so, hey, what do I know?)

May it go well, and briskly--I want to read it!

Date: 2008-07-25 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjlayman.livejournal.com
I was thinking that, not that I've read it, either. Going North and Keeping Pace? Going North and Standing Still? Going North and Facing South? Going North and Turning Back? Going North and Hiding Title?

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Date: 2008-07-24 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kightp.livejournal.com
*waves* at the author's retreating back.
Edited Date: 2008-07-24 11:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-07-25 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gypsy1969.livejournal.com
I can certainly relate to the depression that can occur after going to a con and having your expectations fall short of reality.

I could write entire LJ posts on this very topic. Why I could even write a story or two about this, but alas I've found other things to do.

Date: 2008-07-25 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handyhunter.livejournal.com
an abstract shape that might be a library, or a unicorn, or an emotional situation.

And a Bruce Springsteen reference! He has the answers to everything.

Date: 2008-07-25 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tunxeh.livejournal.com
in an abstract shape that might be a library, or a unicorn, or an emotional situation

Methinks it is like a weasel.

Which is to say, I'm sure you and your editor know best about these sort of things, but I'll be very happy to see it once it comes out no matter what length it is.

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Date: 2008-07-25 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jinian.livejournal.com
We had lovely dragonflies (in various attitudes of copulation) out at Egg Lake last weekend. I counted three kinds for sure, so I don't doubt you are well ahead, but they were very pleasing.

Date: 2008-07-29 03:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] carbonel
I don't have any good ideas, but it occurs to me that something with "waltzing" in one of the titles might be apropros.

Date: 2008-08-18 02:37 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Would "Among the Cedars" be too Audenesque for the second volume?

Date: 2008-09-01 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pecunium.livejournal.com
Bruce Springsteen?

Just wonderin'.

TK

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