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I went out for a quick walk today. It's cold but sunny, and there's an abundance of leaves, all plastered on the sidewalks and streets by recent rains like an elementary-school art project for giants -- linden, maple, oak, lilac, ash, euonymus, locust, and elm.

People have not taken down their Obama signs. They make me smile whenever I see them. Lots of people didn't take down their Kerry signs in 2004, either, and there was a bit of a fuss by Bush people about why didn't we get over it already. People didn't take down their Gore signs in 2000, for that matter, but given the hideous weeks of uncertainty that followed the election and the outrageous behavior of various officials culminating in the betrayal by the Supreme Court, that's hardly surprising. We're getting that in miniature here in Minnesota, with Norm Coleman implying that the only only honorable thing for Al Franken to do is to step aside, and then filing umpty-eleven lawsuits to -- wait for it -- prevent the votes from being counted. If I had a Franken sign I'd light it up with neon.

If I had an Obama sign, I'd probably have taken it right in to cherish it.

I still really can't believe we won. And I think we all won, even people who don't think they did. I'm still reading the Making Light thread on the outcome of the election. I can't read much at a time because I keep bursting into tears.

I just read an article -- I think it was in the online edition of the Washington Post, but I am really supposed to be working on my chapter, so I won't look for the link -- that said the Obama campaign had collected a few dozen experts in various fields to make a list of that subset of the horrific actions of the Bush Administration (the newspaper didn't put it that way) that could be reversed immediately. So they're going to lift restrictions on stem cell research, smash up the global gag rule, and let California decide how many noxious emissions cars can foul up its air with. Oh, and they're actually going to follow the recommendations of the EPA task force with regard to carbon dioxide. Amazing.

What still makes me lie awake sometimes, aside from the war, which really can't have anything done about it quickly, is the torture. I imagine they're still doing it, for no good reason and to no good purpose. I hope that can be stopped as swiftly as these lesser crimes.

Chapter 1 has 13 pages at the moment, but seems greedy for more.

Pamela

Date: 2008-11-09 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithhopetricks.livejournal.com
I still really can't believe we won. And I think we all won, even people who don't think they did

Yes. Oh, yes.

In some ways this feels even better, for me, now -- because I was so racked with anxiety right up to and _during_ the election (right up til PA went blue, I think) -- now it's like, "Dear God, all that hope and hard work and faith and wearing out shoe leather totally worked." It's beyond inspiring.

Amen on the torture, too -- I think both he and McCain promised they'd close Gitmo at least? That has to happen SOON.

Date: 2008-11-09 11:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rosefox
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27628719/

"Transition advisers to President-elect Barack Obama have compiled a list of about 200 Bush administration actions and executive orders that could be swiftly undone to reverse White House policies on climate change, stem cell research, reproductive rights and other issues, according to congressional Democrats, campaign aides and experts working with the transition team.

"A team of four dozen advisers, working for months in virtual solitude, set out to identify regulatory and policy changes Obama could implement soon after his inauguration. The team is now consulting with liberal advocacy groups, Capitol Hill staffers and potential agency chiefs to prioritize those they regard as the most onerous or ideologically offensive, said a top transition official who was not permitted to speak on the record about the inner workings of the transition."

Date: 2008-11-09 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dd-b.livejournal.com
Seems like an executive order about torture could pretty much do the job; I don't see why it's unusually difficult (beyond the usual problems getting people to obey changed rules).

Closing Gitmo, as people say, can't be done instantly. We probably have people there that *shouldn't* be released, and we have people that can't just be deported "home" without subjecting them to severe problems.

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Date: 2008-11-14 04:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] arkuat
Well, closing it "instantly" would involved shipping everyone we couldn't release to Federal prisons. That wouldn't be instant, but it could be done pretty quickly. Of course, they'd all have to be charged and brought to trial then, and once acquitted, probably settled somewhere in the US under something like the federal witness protection program.

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Date: 2008-11-09 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
We sorta won...there's work again against that nasty Prop 8, alas.

Date: 2008-11-09 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dd-b.livejournal.com
You do know what "utopia" means (or is derived from), right?

There's *always* more work.

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Date: 2008-11-10 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizzlaurajean.livejournal.com
I brought my Obama sign in the first day after the election and put it in the porch window. Oddly that night our other two signs were stolen the Ellison and Clark. Others around us still have their up and no one has messed with them. Our Franken sign was always just the card stock version in the window. I'm leaving it there for a long time.

Date: 2008-11-10 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dsgood.livejournal.com
The election prediction sites I watched underestimated Obama's electoral vote, though they did predict he would probably get over 300.

Date: 2008-11-10 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gypsy1969.livejournal.com
Our Obama sign is still up. It actually only went up the day before the election. I was volunteering in the office and they had a few left so I asked for one and they gave it to me. Our "private school" neighbors had a McCain/Palin sign up for weeks but it was down on Wednesday the 5th.

I thought of taking my sign in right away and preserving it for posterity but then I thought it would just fall apart so I might as well enjoy it on my lawn. Yay for our side!

Keep those pages coming!

Date: 2008-11-10 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
As I've said elsewhere, I am not euphoric. How could so many hundreds of thousands of people have voted for Obama and Coleman? Obama and Bachmann? Obama and Paulsen? I sense no mandate on the direction of the government given how many downballot Republicans were elected. I AM cheered by the passage of the Land, Water, Legacy constitutional amendment, but I just am so unsure of what people are thinking and wanting as shown by their votes for these utterly wretched candidates.

K.

Date: 2008-11-10 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davidschroth.livejournal.com
It's a process, and it takes time. And work - there are no silver bullets.

I share your disappointment about some of those who won, in the face of challenges from those much better qualified (IMNSHO).

And I'm totally perplexed at how over 45% of the voters could vote for those corrupt, unprincipled, dishonest people.

Date: 2008-11-10 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizzlaurajean.livejournal.com
I do not imagine people who voted for Bachmann voted Obama.

More likely Obama and Coleman, the Somali population likes Coleman because he has address issues they have brought to him.

I certainly know of Republicans who were voting Obama and people who don't vote along party lines, but they were nervous about either side having too much power. I think this is a week argument but then I'm so blue biased.

There are also a lot of people who only voted for Obama and did not fill in any other circles on the ballot. These tend to be low income under informed minority's who don't know enough about the other candidates.

Yes

Date: 2008-11-10 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] markiv1111.livejournal.com
Just to say that I am with you all the way on this.

Nate

Date: 2008-11-10 02:23 am (UTC)
arkuat: (lake-superior 2007)
From: [personal profile] arkuat
I thought you'd like to know that today Strawberry Creek MM, after a month of seasoning, added our name to the list of organizations endorsing the National Religious Coalition against Torture's recommendation addressed to the White House. I'm not going to go dig it out of my backpack or go look up the link (nrcat.org?), but the gist of it was to prohibit US use of any interrogation techniques that we would object to being used against US soldiers.

(I must say, it is so nice to feel *comfortable* using "we" in that sense again, after more than five years for me.)

Basically it says, okay, Mr. President, you can allow waterboarding if you want to go on record saying that you accept that captured American POWs will be subject to waterboarding. It's not much (NRCAT is an organization with broadly spread roots), but it's a start. And if it actually gets applied to CIA covert operations, then it would be more than a start; it would be progress.

Date: 2008-11-10 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apostle-of-eris.livejournal.com
. . . and this morning I woke up to the announcement that one of the earlier appointments will be the national Chief Technology Officer, who will be putting the entire Federal government online, and assuring that everyone has access!
(Tempered by the announcement of a "temporary" increase in H1-B visas. *sigh*)

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Date: 2008-11-13 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyjaguar.livejournal.com
I am so relieved. I didn't want to watch the returns because of the disappointments of the last couple of elections. So I was playing a game. My daughter came into the room and said, "President-elect Obama." I was so happy.

My other daughter summed it up nicely on a silly site. Take a look.

http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=2515785

The most telling event of the campaign happened when my younger daughter and her best friend and I were at Disney World in September. We were staying at the Fort Wilderness cabins. One evening in the cabin, my daughter got the hiccups. Her friend leaned forward across the table and said very slowly and deliberately, "President Palin."

The hiccups were immediately gone, it was that scary!

It's time for all of us to go to work fixing what's wrong. I am hopeful that Obama can inspire people to idealism and to positive action. It's about time for some positive effort, after all the negativity of the past 8 years.

Completely off topic: Not Cheetos

Date: 2008-11-13 01:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aedifica
What is it in Cheetos that you can't have? I got some Cheeto-like things this afternoon at the U's dairy store. Ingredients are whole corn flour, soy oil, natural nacho seasoning, sugar, calcium carbonate, and salt. No actual cheese listed...

If those are something you'd like to try, I can pick some up for you sometime. The place is open from 3-5 on Wednesday afternoons.

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Date: 2008-11-14 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyrzqxgl.livejournal.com
I'll keep my Obama button on my backpack until the inauguration, I think, and will probably keep wearing my Obama bracelets indefinitely for the colors on top of everything else.

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