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Going South

I have bad news about Going North, the joint sequel to The Whim of the Dragon and The Dubious Hills, also affectionately known as the Amazing Expanding and Shrinking Novel. After a protracted discussion, Viking has decided to cancel the book. They will not be publishing it. Nor will Firebird be reissuing The Dubious Hills, since of course they are connected.

Things actually started to go wrong when I turned the manuscript in very late and far too long. Making it into two volumes was supposed to address this difficulty, but eventually the decision was made that the book should be only one, much shorter, volume. Possibly I should have quit at this point, rather than shrinking the book back down as requested by the publisher, but I felt responsible for the lateness of the original book and wanted to act like a professional.

The whole buildup for the new novel got derailed by my original lateness and by the revisions. In the meantime, the Firebird reissues of the Secret Country trilogy had gone out of print, except in e-format.

Furthermore, the condensed book is still 135,000 words, and Sharyn November, my editor, feels that parts of it are now too confusing and opaque. She thinks that not only should it not be cut any further, but that in order for it to be the best book it can be, it ought to be expanded again to properly explore various aspects of it. In other words, the book as it stands is not long enough. (Cue hollow laughter, from both author and editor.)

Finally, it is apparently not a YA novel. I seem to fall neatly between the cracks every time. If my work is published as adult fiction, I get continual inquiries as to why it was not published as YA. If I try to work with a YA publisher, as I did some years back with Jane Yolen when she had her line at Harcourt, and as I did more recently with Sharyn and Viking, the verdict is that the book is not for kids, though a few smart teenagers might like it: the book is for adults. I probably should have seen this coming. I know other authors who don't themselves know if any given work is adult or YA, but their agents and editors don't have a problem in determining which the book is. So these lucky writers just write, and the work is put into a marketing category after the fact. When I just write, things go plumb into the chasm.

I am not giving up on this book. It wants expanding so that it makes sense and fits itself better. Everything it needs for that is already written and carefully saved up. I don't think the two-volume format is the way to go; I think a decently-sized version of the current pared-down story will work better. The subplots and characters I have taken out are already rampaging around in short stories and back-of-the-head worldbuilding, making wild proclamations, studying astronomy, and seeking whom they may devour. Backing up to the stories I originally envisaged for these people is not really possible.

I'm in the process of looking for a new agent, so the first thing to do is to see what whoever-that-ends-up-being thinks of the situation. But if nobody wants to represent me, or if someone wants to take me on as a client but thinks that the book itself can't be sold to a regular publisher, I will self-publish it in some way or another.

I'm very sorry, everyone who has been waiting so long. If I end up doing this myself, I'll try to do it as quickly as is consistent with putting the book in its best form. If this is how things go, Sharyn, who has been involved in this project for more than a decade and who fought very hard for it, has offered to give me any help in her power, which is a great comfort.

In the meantime, I'm working regularly on the Liavek novel, and gnawing away at the first confusing point in the current version of Going North.

I've been coming to terms with this news for some months now. I expect to be posting more now that I've finally told you guys about it.

Again, I'm very sorry to have to tell you this. I'll give you any news when I have it.

Pamela
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Date: 2012-09-12 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tanac.livejournal.com
I'm so sorry. Best of luck to you with it, and I do hope it finds a home. I look forward to it very much. *hugs*

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Date: 2012-09-12 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skzbrust.livejournal.com
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

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Date: 2012-09-12 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martianmooncrab.livejournal.com
I will still look for it when it does come out, either in ebook or not, or whatever publisher..

Date: 2012-09-12 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zxhrue.livejournal.com
well fiddlesticks. I still look forward to reading it when it sees the light of day.

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Date: 2012-09-12 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alecaustin.livejournal.com
I'm pulling for you, and for this book. I wish you the best of luck finding it a good home.

Date: 2012-09-12 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davidgoldfarb.livejournal.com
Well, that sucks. But thanks for letting us know, and good luck salvaging something.

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Date: 2012-09-12 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msagara.livejournal.com
I just want to say one thing: It’s clear, from LJ over the years, that you are always honestly engaging with your writing, and that you are doing your level best in a truly difficult situation.

I really hate that this is happening to your book - but I hope that you are not beating yourself up for disappointing the readers who’ve been waiting; we’ll wait. We’ll wait, cheering you on from the sidelines, as you allow.

Date: 2012-09-12 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wild-irises.livejournal.com
I wish I had written this comment.

But someone else did, so I'll just say "I agree!"

Date: 2012-09-12 06:22 am (UTC)
rosefox: Green books on library shelves. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rosefox
Oh, that sounds like a rotten set of experiences, with a rotten culmination. Many sympathies.

Date: 2012-09-12 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizkit.livejournal.com
Please understand that when I say, "Oh, for the love of God," it is entirely directed at the publishing industry and in no way at yourself.

Because, oh, for the love of God.

That said, I will still buy the book when it comes out, however it comes out, because I love your writing, I love your books, and the idea of a new Pamela Dean book, no matter how delayed, still fills me with squeeful delight. Hang in there. We'll wait for you. *hugs*

Oh No!

Date: 2012-09-12 07:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lsanderson.livejournal.com
Damn! Damn! Damn!

Date: 2012-09-12 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
I am so sorry. I hope it finds a new home swiftly, and that the revisions go to your liking. This sucks. Sympathy.

Date: 2012-09-12 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] houseboatonstyx.livejournal.com
Please do self-publish it on a website of your own, surrounded with the bits that aren't making it into the official book, and your other spin-offs.

Date: 2012-09-12 07:31 am (UTC)
ext_6283: Brush the wandering hedgehog by the fire (Mrs Tiggywinkle)
From: [identity profile] oursin.livejournal.com
I am so very sorry about all this. But I would love to read it as you originally intended it to be, rather than chopped about and altered to fit external demands, as in the case of Jo March's first novel.

Date: 2012-09-12 01:24 pm (UTC)
vass: Jon Stewart reading a dictionary (books)
From: [personal profile] vass
But I would love to read it as you originally intended it to be, rather than chopped about and altered to fit external demands

Yes, this.

Date: 2012-09-12 09:12 am (UTC)
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
Oh my goodness, how difficult for you (and Sharyn, from what it sounds like). I'm so sorry to hear it, though I think your professionalism and restraint in describing the situation is commendable. I hope you are able to do what is best for the book and that it finds a supportive home that will help get it to the people who want to read it.

Date: 2012-09-12 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vr-trakowski.livejournal.com
I'm sorry things have been so difficult!

But I'll buy and read it however you choose to publish it.

Date: 2012-09-12 10:16 am (UTC)
firecat: red panda, winking (Default)
From: [personal profile] firecat
That sounds pretty frustrating. May you and the book and a publisher and an agent all meet in the right place at the right time in the future.

Date: 2012-09-12 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
I heard about this from DD-B in Chicago and I've been fuming ever since.

Date: 2012-09-12 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Things do go studying astronomy when you least expect it.

You know you have my support and sympathies.

Date: 2012-09-12 11:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tithenai.livejournal.com
I am so sorry you're going through this. It sounds exhausting and disheartening. I wish you a speedy and favourable resolution to this awful situation, and am cheering for you relentlessly from the sidelines.

Date: 2012-09-12 11:54 am (UTC)
ext_345282: (Green Man)
From: [identity profile] orcaarrow.livejournal.com
Pamela, I'm very sorry the contract has been cancelled! We'll still be out here waiting for whatever goodies you have for us!

Date: 2012-09-12 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mariness.livejournal.com
How depressing. But I'm glad to hear that I will get to read it in the right form.

Date: 2012-09-12 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inlaterdays.livejournal.com
I'm sorry you're having these trials and sorry to hear that the book won't be published quite yet. I hope it finds the right publisher soon.

Date: 2012-09-12 12:20 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Magadalen)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
Joining the chorus of "I'm so sorry to hear this!" and hoping that things get sorted out. I'll keep looking forward to seeing Going North in print (or print-equivalent) at some point ...

Date: 2012-09-12 12:53 pm (UTC)
ext_14638: (Amor Vincit Omnia)
From: [identity profile] 17catherines.livejournal.com
Oh, that sounds so incredibly frustrating and disappointing for you.

I'm glad you plan to get the book out one way or another - hopefully expanding it again will mean you have the chance to finish the book *you* want to write.

Much love

Catherine

PS - and of course there's a bit of 'aargh, no wonderful Pamela Dean book yet', but it sounds much more hellish for you than for us.

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Date: 2012-09-12 01:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] evil_plotbunny
I'm so very sorry to hear that, but I will wait impatiently for as long as I needed. Someday this book will find its way into the world.

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