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First, in reference to my previous post, the pies tasted fantastic and the crust was quite good, if lumpy and patched. I have at least learned to use a very very light hand when repairing the deficiencies of my crusts.

And now, the sequel to the Great Pie-Licking Episode.

Yesterday evening, I made tempeh mushroom stroganoff for Cameron and me. I do feed David too, especially when Lydy is away, if I'm making something he'd like. But he wouldn't like this, and he still had leftover turkey yesterday.

I hadn't been able to find commercial vegan sour cream, so fairly early in the process I made some in the miniature food processor. Then I got an 8-oz block of tempeh out of the freezer and thawed it in the microwave. Sometime during 2020 somebody started up a local business that makes tempeh, calling the product Tempeh Tantrum, which alone would have recommended it to me. In fact it is quite good, very plain tempeh: no grains or seasonings, just soybeans, water, and the tempeh culture.

After thawing the tempeh, I cut the block into quarters so that it would fit in the saucepan, and steamed it for 20 minutes. I put the four pieces on a plate to cool. At this point I actually looked at the recipe, which I had not made for some time, and saw that it didn't take long at all, and dinner would be ready much too early if I went on. I washed and cut up a pound of broccoli to roast and put the tofu sour cream in the fridge. The tempeh was still fairly hot, and in any case I have an only partly conscious attitude of "But it's spoiled already" about tempeh. So I left the plate on the stove.

The cats were schooling around reminding me that they were starving, and it was in fact time for wet food, so I gave it to them and sat in the room while they ate it: this is necessary because Cassie will steal Saffron's food from under her nose, and Saffron, for reasons known only to her otherwise very stroppy self, will let Cassie do it. Cassie did not do it this time. We have a routine, wherein she finishes her own food and walks towards Saffron, who is eating at her own leisurely pace on an armchair, to keep Cassie a little more at, well, paw's reach. I always say, "I see you, Cass. I see the Cass." Then she sits down and washes her whiskers, keeping a very close eye on Saffron.

So Saffron got all her food and washed her own whiskers. Cass came over and sat on the couch with me. Saffron ambled into the kitchen. After a few minutes of dead silence, Cassie bolted off the sofa and ran as fast as her short little legs would go into the kitchen, and thence out the other door. Something extremely interesting had just happened with food.

I ran into the kitchen. The pan of broccoli looked untouched. On the tempeh plate, there were three pieces remaining.

Exclaiming loudly, I bolted into my bedroom after Cass, who had just disappeared under the bed. I flung myself on my stomach onto the floor and peered under, after a moment employing the flashlight function of my cellphone. Saffron and Cassie were gnawing bites off the fourth piece of steamed tempeh. Tempeh crumbs were scattered all over the floor between them. I reached my arm under to grab the piece of tempeh, and Saffron snatched it up in her mouth, moved a few feet away, and dropped it again. I leapt up, got the broom, and dragged the gnawed tempeh out from under the bed. Saffron and Cassie erupted after me, but I already had the tempeh in my hand. They followed me into the kitchen, also exclaiming loudly.

I fished the tempeh wrapper out of the trash and ascertained that it was, indeed, very plain tempeh. And it was cooked. They would probably be fine, but I had no idea why the tempeh had elicited behavior that would have been completely understandable if it were cheese or fish. I would never leave either of those desirable foodstuffs alone in the kitchen, but tempeh and tofu have never been bothered before.

I walked into Cameron's office with the gnawed piece of tempeh in my hand. They had eaten less than a quarter of it, less even than that if you counted all the crumbs. "My goodness!" Cameron said. "Is tempeh bad for cats?"

"I have no idea."

Cam was looking it up as I took the tempeh back to the kitchen and put it into the organics recycling. I contemplated the remaining tempeh. I now had the wrong amount for the recipe. Also, Saffron had had plenty of time before jumping down with her chosen piece to do any kind of investigation she liked of the other ones. I sighed and put them in the recycling as well. At least the tempeh had been on sale and we'd only lost about three dollars.

Cameron came into the kitchen and said, "Just tell me, was there any garlic or onion in the tempeh?"

"Nope, just plain tempeh. And already steamed."

We agreed that the cats would probably be fine but we would keep an eye on them.

I got the next block of tempeh out of the freezer and put it in the microwave to thaw. Dinner was about twenty minutes late. I remarked at intervals to Cameron, "Well, nobody has barfed yet."

Nobody ever did, nor exhibited any other signs of digestive distress.

Eventually I swept the tempeh crumbs out from under the bed. Apparently they were not actually very tasty once the excitement of the chase was over.

The stroganoff was very tasty, and Saffron bore me no ill will for stealing her prey. I can only be grateful that I put the vegan sour cream in the refrigerator. It's clear that nothing is safe from Saffron any more.

Pamela

Date: 2021-12-30 07:43 am (UTC)
sovay: (Viktor & Mordecai)
From: [personal profile] sovay
Saffron and Cassie were gnawing bites off the fourth piece of steamed tempeh.

Wow.

Autolycus will investigate any human food at all, from plantains to cheese grits to slices of liverwurst, but he has never made a triumphant escape with tofu.

(I like tempeh very much, but I would at least ask first.)

Date: 2021-12-30 08:42 am (UTC)
vass: Small turtle with green leaf in its mouth (Default)
From: [personal profile] vass
I love tempeh, but I can't imagine cats would usually. I think my Dorian may have already mimed kicking cat litter over it on at least one occasion.

Date: 2021-12-30 10:06 am (UTC)
cmcmck: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cmcmck
It's food, they're cats.......... :O)

Date: 2021-12-30 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] martianmooncrab
they do have some peculiar eating habits...

Date: 2021-12-30 02:16 pm (UTC)
asakiyume: created by the ninja girl (Default)
From: [personal profile] asakiyume
On the contrary, maybe tempeh is cats' secret fave!

Tempeh and broccoli takes me back to my undergraduate days. I lived in a co-op, and it was vegetarian, and one of my favorite, easy meals to cook when I signed up for cooking duty was tempeh and broccoli, flavored with soy sauce and ginger.

Date: 2021-12-30 02:28 pm (UTC)
graydon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] graydon

Yay, pies!

It sounds dreadfully as though the mischief has got into Saffron, but hopefully it was no more than the predator neuron deciding that warm food must be freshly killed and therefore desirable.

These are very entertaining posts, all the same.

Date: 2021-12-30 03:34 pm (UTC)
replyhazy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] replyhazy
CATS!

Date: 2021-12-30 03:35 pm (UTC)
sartorias: (brain)
From: [personal profile] sartorias
Cat brains.

Date: 2021-12-30 03:59 pm (UTC)
rushthatspeaks: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rushthatspeaks
Huh. My best guess is it's protein? In a fairly pure form? Still, quite unexpected and confusing. I know cats are attracted to fat in whatever form, but tempeh doesn't have much of that. My Lucien, of beloved memory, used to kill and eat avocados, peel and all. Never seemed to hurt him, but we tried to stop it anyway on the grounds that avocado peel could not be a good idea for his digestion. Avocado is very fatty, so that was the explanation there. Many cats love cantaloupe, and I don't know the explanation for that one. But tempeh. That's a new one in my experience. Wow.

Date: 2021-12-30 04:02 pm (UTC)
minoanmiss: sleeping lady sculpture (Sleeping Lady)
From: [personal profile] minoanmiss
Oh my lady Bast, these cats!

(Also I need to try tempeh again after having read this. :Last time I took it from the package straight to a frying pan. I didn't realize it needs steaming first.)

Date: 2021-12-30 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thomasyan
That's a great story. I'm glad that other than some excess excitement, everyone is okay.

Aside: I personally am not a fan of natto (a type of fermented soy), but maybe you could learn to like it? Many fermented foods supposedly have probiotic benefits. The mention of stroganoff, which I like and in my experience has a fairly strong flavor, made me think that if interested, you could try starting off by mixing in a tiny bit before eating, and gradually add more, and see if you come to like it.

I had a friend who didn't like it himself, and neither did his wife, but his sons did, so he'd make them natto omelets for breakfast.

Date: 2021-12-30 10:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] islenskr
Holy cow! (or...uh...cat!)
On the other hand, I had a cat once who couldn't get enough of acorn squash. At one time, I was regularly taking my dinner plate to eat on the couch in the living room while chatting online (in the days before the web and telnet got me to MUSHes and MUDs). I would plop the plate in my lap and the keyboard on my knees. My cat would sneak very slowly over to my plate and pretend very intently that I did not see her, even though I'd say "no, not for you" many times. And she'd eat my squash. I finally gave up and gave her her own squash whenever I cooked it (no butter or sugar, just plain).

My current cat won't eat human food at all. Just the wet stuff out of a can.

Cats are weird. Your cats are right up there with very weird! :)

Date: 2021-12-30 11:07 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Cassie did not do it this time. We have a routine, wherein she finishes her own food and walks towards Saffron, who is eating at her own leisurely pace on an armchair, to keep Cassie a little more at, well, paw's reach. I always say, "I see you, Cass. I see the Cass." Then she sits down and washes her whiskers, keeping a very close eye on Saffron.

Aww that's adorable.

So Saffron got all her food and washed her own whiskers. Cass came over and sat on the couch with me. Saffron ambled into the kitchen. After a few minutes of dead silence, Cassie bolted off the sofa and ran as fast as her short little legs would go into the kitchen, and thence out the other door. Something extremely interesting had just happened with food.

OH MY GOD. Naughty kitties! I don't think I have ever heard of cats going after tempeh that way, wow.

Date: 2021-12-31 12:06 pm (UTC)
centuryplant: A Halloween Pennant dragonfly (Default)
From: [personal profile] centuryplant
I always say, 'I see you, Cass. I see the Cass.' Then she sits down and washes her whiskers, keeping a very close eye on Saffron.

I didn't realize you'd changed it! I still use your original version—"Cassia Cassandra Cassiopeia, I SEE you."

Date: 2022-01-01 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thomasyan
Ah, too bad. I was hoping mixing it into a sauce (like stroganoff or curry) would hide the slime.

My first encounter with natto was self-inflicted. I was in Japan with my family, and my brother and I had gone off to dinner on our own. There were pictures on the menu, and I thought the one with a bowl of interesting-looking grain might be fun to try. I'd heard of natto before (a friend said his favorite restaurant had it, but would make sure you knew what you were getting if you ordered it), so my heart sank when it was served. I mixed it with my rice, added a bunch of soy sauce, and maybe some wasabi, and managed to eat it all. Bleah.

I now wish I had asked my friend to let me sample part of a natto omelet. Maybe I would have found it palatable in that dish. Alas, he's the one who died recently.

Date: 2022-01-01 04:56 am (UTC)
carbonel: Beth wearing hat (Default)
From: [personal profile] carbonel
My first cat, Emily, loved cantaloupe. I hadn't realized it was a common thing in cats; I just thought it was one of her peculiarities.

Date: 2022-01-01 04:57 am (UTC)
carbonel: Beth wearing hat (Default)
From: [personal profile] carbonel
I am now imagining a dish with both natto and okra. For someone else to eat, that is.

Date: 2022-01-01 05:05 am (UTC)
carbonel: Beth wearing hat (Default)
From: [personal profile] carbonel
Cats! I'm not sure whether it's nice or worrisome that the two of them were entirely in agreement in the conspiracy, even if Saffron was the instigator.

I continue to feel very lucky that Morwen almost never goes after human food on the counter. She did once lick butter from the dish that lives atop the flour canister, but I haven't seen evidence of that since. And she doesn't bother me at all when I'm cooking dinner. (She does when I'm making breakfast, but morning is when she gets treats, so that's entirely understandable, and once she gets them, she's too occupied.)

And she doesn't like smoked salmon in any form. I keep remembering the bit in *The Art of Eating* (I think) about the bad salmon, but this is all smoked salmon I've offered, plus the nice oily lox package after it was empty, which would have had Gandalf and Pyewacket in raptures.

Date: 2022-01-01 05:28 am (UTC)
rushthatspeaks: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rushthatspeaks
I've actually seen it on lists of suggested homemade cat treats! Though they shouldn't have the seeds.

Cats are also supposed to have a species-wide aversion to lemon, but every cat I've ever had has liked it, so I don't believe that one at all.

Date: 2022-01-01 06:46 am (UTC)
sovay: (Rotwang)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I had not thought Saffron would outdo Autolycus in this matter. Though he still holds the crown for number of episodes.

He made a serious move on some fried clams this evening.

How do you like to cook it? Or are you, like me for many years, more likely to get it from a restaurant? I like it a lot, but I don't feel I've found any really satisfactory recipes.

I am much more likely to get it from restaurants, although I believe [personal profile] rushthatspeaks and I cooked with it once when we were working our way through Andrea Nguyen's Asian Dumplings (2009). The limitations of the last two years on the restaurants I can get to have in fact significantly deprived me of tempeh and I miss it, so I understand where Saffron is coming from.

Date: 2022-01-01 06:50 am (UTC)
sovay: (Viktor & Mordecai)
From: [personal profile] sovay
Many cats love cantaloupe, and I don't know the explanation for that one.

I don't, either, but Tzythy of my childhood once famously launched herself onto the table where slices were set out on plates for breakfast, sank her teeth into one in passing, and carried it away with her onto the floor in the same movement, which was extremely impressive and in my memory looks sort of like Hong Kong wire fu, but I think was really just Cat. (She was also known to sneak up on unattended melons and leave tiny spiky teethmarks in them.)

Date: 2022-01-01 07:52 am (UTC)
athenais: (Default)
From: [personal profile] athenais
Tempeh? how bizarre that they wanted it! Great story, especially since they did not suffer from ill effects.

Date: 2022-01-01 09:02 am (UTC)
vass: Small turtle with green leaf in its mouth (Default)
From: [personal profile] vass
I don't really have recipes so much as ways of using it. Mainly pastas or noodles or stir-fries. My favourite is just sauteeing it until it's golden then tossing it in a bit of soy sauce and sesame oil.

Date: 2022-01-03 09:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ethelmay
My daughter once dogsat for a dog who ate half a roll of toilet paper. A vet friend recommended canned pumpkin to clear things out. I guess it worked.

Date: 2022-01-18 09:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lcohen
leaving you a quick happy birthday! may your adventures be many but mild! love, lisa

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